What if raditz was good

Initially believing it was Vegeta who restored him, Raditz is shocked when it turns out to be Piccolo who did it. Initially furious that Piccolo brought him back after killing him, he's somewhat humbled when the now far more powerful Piccolo defeats him again. The sub-story ends with Raditz accepting an offer to train with the Z-Warriors, with Piccolo's comment of Raditz always "complaining" about his losses as opposed to using them as inspiration to overcome his weaknesses, like his brother.

Another popular exploration of the "what if Raditz was good" idea comes from a what-if story conceived by Masako X -- one of the minds behind Dragon Ball Z Abridged. The extensive fan-fiction imagined a scenario where Raditz actually survived his encounter with Goku and Piccolo and ended up training alongside Piccolo and Gohan to increase his own chances of surviving the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa.

This led Raditz to actually make a home with on Earth and find happiness with the Z-Warriors -- even eventually marrying Launch and having a daughter, Ranch, who became a consistent best friend to Trunks and Goten. This story and Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot both prove how effective Raditz could have been if he'd mattered in the long run instead of just being nothing more than the starter villain.

He covers breakouts on comics, film, television, video games, and anime. Get Known if you don't have an account. So many things that could've been, so many things I haven't seen! MasakoX : There is no Garlic Jr. Saga , moving on. Ranch: After Goten has agreed to get his hair cut Comb with me! Vegeta stands up and looks at the kid but ignores him.. He then uses his power up state to move to Raditz..

Raditz recovering from the crippling pain freezes as he realises what is about to happen. He might have just doomed them all. How could he have been such a fool! Of course the prince would be this blinded by pride!

He could not accept a kid as his superior! Meanwhile Piccolo cruely smiles as he dashes towards the trio of Yamcha , Chiaotzu and Tien. He knows their weaknesses. Now that they have chosen to deny his kill, and without Gohan turning him more on the path of good, he is without mercy. Without a second of doubt in his mind he fires an Evil Blast towards the little emperor , which as he expected gets caught by Tien.

Who immediately looks worse for wear. Yamcha is storming in.. Creating a crater upon impact. He dodges Chiaotzu Dodon Ray. Tien looks at Chiaotzu and nods at him. The little emperor objects but as she sees Piccolo grin menacingly he agrees. Piccolo aims an attack at the little guy but gets Solar Flared by Tien. The Namekian takes a defensive position expecting a follow up attack from the triclops but instead behind him he hears the words Wolf Fang Fist.

As he is violently launched towards Tien who then slams him down to the ground by two interlocking fits and slamming on the Namekian as if it was a hammer. The nameking vanishes appearing behind Tien twisting his arms all across him using him as a meat shield while holding his hand towards his head charging energy into his two fingers.

His power level would actually be lower barely higher than his False Super Saiyan God level.. Only an about 2x modifier compared to the boost to Krillin hands him a senzu bean somewhat reluctantly and sees the uncle dash towards his now rampaging nephew..

Nappa while unconcious was still subject to the Great Ape transformation, however in his knocked out state, there is no way the bald saiyan would stay in control. Weakened by his wound the power level of this great ape is still around Beginning to charge up a mouth blast Piccolo knows he is in trouble. With his arms all tangled across Tien he has nowhere to go. Especially since his other arm is already has so much of his energy in the special beam cannon.

He bitterly smirks as he wraps his legs more around Tien to prevent him from escaping. This would have to do, he aims his special beam cannon at Yamcha.. Yamcha can only look in horror, barely even realising what just happened. When a shadow is cast over him and a giant foot is about to crush him.. Chiaotzu shakes his head! Keep the earth safe Yamcha! Chiaotzu says as the little guy flies directly towards the sluggish great up.. The little man tells his final goodbyes and blows up.. As Nappa reverts to his normal form and falls unconscious again Yamcha looks at the smoking piles of earths..

Raditz at Kaioken x4 has a power level of around Using his speed to dodge the attacks of feral ape Gohan he draws berserking animal closer and closer to the sentient one. Just before he is close to Vegeta though the man is snatched up by the great ape princes and smashed into the floor, as Raditz coughs up blood, a stomp is send his way.

A stomp that gets blocked by a great ape Gohan tackling great Ape Vegeta. Both Raditz and Gohan are down for the count when Vegeta suddenly notices a bright blue light behind him.

Goku is there holding his spirit bomb tossing it at Vegeta.. Knocking out the great Ape Prince. The wounded Vegeta tries to crawl back to his pod and Krillin tries to stop him. Goku nods. In Vegeta he sees much of himself.. Since he found out he was a Saiyan.. Based on this fight.. He knew that! To win his loyalty they had to prove they were truly stronger. Maybe the other Saiyan Piccolo defeated earlier could…. He could not sense the power level of anyone but Yamcha!

What happened there! It was then that Goku realised his brothers plan had a fatal mistake. A few days later the survivors had gathered at Capsule Corp the mood was glum. While the prince was not stupid and does accept a higher power level if he is confronted with it..

His brain would find any way to deny this.. Nappa had been recovering in at Capsule Corp and now showed the first signs of awakening.

He was no threat to them, a recovered Goku and Raditz now had a power level of around for Raditz and Gohan having gained the biggest boost up until With no Dragon Balls around, Raditz failsafe plan went up into smoke. When Picollo died Kami also faded away and so did the Dragon Balls. The group would however find Nappa to be unexpectedly co-operative.

Having seen the kid double in power level over just a fews day and having been abandoned by Vegeta the Saiyan does see reason in Raditz words. As a hencheman to the King and later the prince Nappa saw the tension between King Cold his son and their former King.

Somewhere Nappa knows Vegeta always treated him like a minion and to an extend that was what he was. He never minded as long as he had to wreck stuff. In a way he had become a slave.. To both Frieza and Vegeta.. They healed him up, some of them gave their lives to keep him safe.. He was important for once. Nappa was sick of being treated as the footwipe of so many people. Wanting to be stronger he says he will help them fight Frieza..

Raditz agrees and tells that they have to find another time to beat humility in Vegeta. He still recognised they needed all the help they could get against Frieza even that blasted prince. In an attempt on how to save their friends the group reaches the same conclusion as in the original. They can use the Namekian Dragon Balls to save everyone.. All for their own reasons!

Nappa while not completely trusted either.. That was not a proper win! Surprisingly Yamcha is the one who turns out to be the most forgiving. He too started out on a bad path.. In Tien heck even Raditz who had now proven himself. Yamcha saw this the most of everyone. The Namekian spaceship of Kami was suggested as their means of transportation..

How shall the trip to Namek go?! What will Vegeta do now that he found out about this super powerful Hybrid Saiyan and can Nappa really be trusted? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Pinkie! Last Time on Dragon Ball Pinkie! Knowing he could not convince his Saiyan fellows who were coming to earth after his betrayal he Goku and Gohan travelled Snake Way to investigate rumors about a large power boosting technique called the Kaio-Ken. Finding a beautiful woman named Princess Snake, after a short scuffle Raditz swore to her to find a way for her to walk on earth!

After which they proceeded to train with King Kai.. While Raditz and Goku mastered it.. Find out today! It is the day that Kami has told everyone the Saiyans will arrive, with everybody being much more powerful as in the original, all having better sparring partners, Yamcha Krillin and Tien training under Piccolo, and Gohan training with his father and Uncle.

Raditz plan to ask Bulma to gather the Dragon Balls is also well under way. In this version of the story we use the Broly movie version of Bardock..

Gohan however was much more powerful in this timeline! Much more like his father and his uncle. Call it a back up plan in case his original plan failed.. Yet he had a riskier plan for today one that Goku and most of the other Z-Fighters were aware off.

They were skeptical but if that would lead the conflict to be resolved without bloodshed they would give it a try. In this timeline Raditz was not yet completely trusted and this plan but that trust on edge but he did offer them a lot of information that was confirmed by either Kami or King Kai.

Besides Raditz was much more powerful than them…better not risk him turning on them again by shutting him out. The only one who seemed to disagree was Piccolo who seemed more eager to just kill these Saiyans and fight Frieza by themselves. His demeanor was a lot more cold and cruel than in the orginal timeline. The landing of the Saiyans on earth happens about the same way as in the anime. Including Nappa destroying a fair chunk of a city using his Volcano Explosion.

While the Z-Fighters would have the power to prevent such a tragedy now, they lack the ability to determine where the saiyans land, so the plan to gather all the strongest power levels in the wasteland was chosen. Then the saiyans meet up with the group in the wastelands to do battle, however this time around Vegeta is much less patient to have Nappa do his thing first..

He prompts Nappa into using is Saibaman as Yamcha steps up he gets taken in a hold by a Saibaman who then glows white! Yamcha is standing there.. Vegeta scans his power level again and reacts shocked. Three thousand? Yamcha even disposes of an extra Saibaman for good measure when Nappa uses another one for him.. Of course this green guy gets his own crater! While Nappa prepares to fight the Z-Fighters Piccolo shoos them away telling them he will take care of this fighter alone.

Not having trained with Gohan means he had not learned compassion so he is harsher, less friendly, he still plans to defeat Goku, who he unfortunately can not stop right now, he still wants to proof he is still relevant though and a force to be reckoned with so he decides to face Nappa by himself.

He must get stronger to get his revenge. Having trainer with stronger allies though he is now about equal his level as Nappa. While the bald saiyan and Piccolo begin to prepare for combat Raditz beckons Gohan over. Gohan I want you to pay close attention to this next fight okay?

Vegeta pops a vein in anger telling Raditz he should not underestimate him and that he can take them both on Raditz just grins and tells Goku will be more than enough to stop Vegeta. As they fly off he yells to Krillin.. The man gulps and follows as they fly to the exact spot where Goku fought Vegeta before.

The clash between Nappa and Piccolo begins while they travel. However, while Piccolo is a clever fighter, Nappa still has way more experience than the Namekian which puts them on an even more playing field. Any advantages Piccolo might have, like his stretching arms , his speed and various techniques are negated by Nappa knowing about Namekians and having fought people who were faster than him before.

Luckily Nappa knows a technique Raditz father developed, something that would allow him to blow the Namekian away completly.. For a moment he considered firing a Mouth Blast at the little emperor the weakest of the group..

Piccolo however still had that technique the one he planned to use on Goku. While it had a big downside.. Piccolo had since developed a way to deal with that downside.

Raditz could find it hard to believe how strong his brother is at that point when Goku would defeat Vegeta. He'd likely join in the fight after being recovered with a Sensu bean, stronger again but not enough to defeat Vegeta who could defeat him with the rest.

Though this could end with Raditz finishing off Vegeta when he tries to flee, for betraying his own kin by turning against him and killing Nappa. With his brother surpassing the Saiyan prince, he could prefer to be with his brother now, but still aching for a fight like any Saiyan. While Goku is recovering, Raditz could go to find the dragonballs alongside Gohan and Krillin. He could be there instead of Bulma since I assume he can fly a ship.

At that point it could still be up in the air wether he might use those dragonballs for himself or not though, but through the trip he could bond with Gohan and somewhat with Krillin, some mutual respect growing there due to fighting against Nappa together earlier.

In space he could also hope to find new battles of course, as its in his blood. Between his three Zenkai boosts he would have gotten at this point and his training, he could be slightly weaker than Vegeta was when landing on Namek.

Strong enough to destroy Cui if they'd encounter him. At this point he would have taught to surpress his power level and sense ki too I assume. When Dende is saved he'd reluctantly follow the others, and when they escape with the solar flare, Raditz could stay to fight and kill Dodoria who he could still hold a grudge against.

Would be harder for him than it was for Vegeta, but he could manage. After this fight, Dende could heal him, making him on par with Vegeta's power level from that point. He could also have to fight Zarbon, be taken prisoner and recovered to find out where he hides the dragonballs they found, and escape with or without dragonballs.

Either way Frieza would not have all of them, Ginyu force would show up and stuff continues as usual, Goku shows up and Raditz would be happy to see him. Burter and Recoome might survive. Ginyu could still body change, leaving Goku to heal while the others fight Frieza.

I doubt Raditz would taunt him to transform though. User Info: Rhalius Rhalius Topic Creator 6 years ago 2 continued Frieza would probably transform later, but I gues the fight would be more similar. User Info: Rhalius Rhalius Topic Creator 6 years ago 9 Well they could have had him play more of a part in underworld perhaps. User Info: KnivesCore KnivesCore 6 years ago 10 Would have been interesting, A more nuanced writer than Toriyama could have done good things with the brother relationship.

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